People -- but this room needs to get bigger. Of course, Washington has problems going back decades. I went up to a school up there. Some of us have spent our lives working on behalf of children and teachers who teach children. WEINGARTEN: Let me get to both of these issues, let me see if I can conflate them. WebWaiting for Superman/Transcript. endobj WEINGARTEN: Theres lots of -- look. GUGGENHEIM: The dream of making a movie like this is conversations just like this, the fact that you and NBC and Viacom and Paramount and Get School bring a movie to the table and let people in this room have a real conversation about to fix our schools is essential. SCARBOROUGH: John Legend, final thoughts? An examination of the current state of education in America today. Don't make -- Im tired, man, I wake up at 3:30 in the morning. WEINGARTEN: Look, what the unions actually talked about was as part of lifting the cap, as part of lifting the cap, they didn't fight against lifting the cap -- LEGEND: Yes, they did. And it started to haunt me, the idea that kids in my own neighborhood, and I live in a pretty good neighborhood, aren't getting what my kids have. Judith and Jose have decided to enter Daisy into the Kipp lottery. The attendance and the schools itself. We have to fix this thing and it means the adults have to take leadership. /Type /Page And she thought I was crying because it's like Santa Claus is not real and I was crying because there was no one coming with enough power to save us. There are people who have figured out systems of improving education and the mayor was very aggressive in bringing those folk into New York City and saying to them, we're going to remove the obstacles for you all to do your work. >> There's a problem with our system and who know that there are children in this country who are falling behind. We increased attendance rates. SCARBOROUGH: Were back with our panel, Michelle, one of the stunning parts of many stunning parts in this documentary, in this film, was when Davis showed the proficiency numbers state by state. DAISY: I want to go to a medical college or a veterinarian college because I really want to become a surgeon. And that still scared the hell out of the Washington union. << And I don't want to make this about the presumptive mayor. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up And we're going to figure out, we're going to get people together here. /TrimBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] I think if we actually got to what constitutes a good teacher and had that kind of standard we'd all be in the same place on that and there are about 50 or 60 districts right now, I made a proposal in January about how to overhaul evaluation. I know, but you didn't have enough money. Where has the union misstepped to help us get to where we are today? So it's important to understand how this is locked down here in D.C. and in New York. And that most of them are getting a really crappy education right now. They were the right things for kids but they made the adults incredibly uncomfortable. Why not? This is about the kids in the movie, and this is about how those of us on this stage help kids. BRZEZINSKI: It was still painful. 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I want to say something about what John just said. Geoffrey Canada: One of the saddest days of my life was when my mother told me Superman did not exist. It's about places that have failed for 30, 40, 50 years, we can't do the same thing this year that we did last year. Have your mom and dad told you about the lottery? How do we let every kid -- SCARBOROUGH: There are two Americas. BRZEZINSKI: Randi, really quickly. I knew -- as Davis said, I knew what was going to happen before she knew what was going to happen. RHEE: Heres the thing. NAKIA: She felt it wasn't fair that other children were being picked and she was just as smart as they were and why not her. Coming up, right after we're finished here, MSNBC will re-air the two-hour town hall. /T1_0 24 0 R I actually have teachers in my family who really think is this is a terrific movie because it exposes for them how complicated it is, how important it is to get great teachers in the classroom and what a difference they can make. Web2010. >> I went up there, Jeff Zucker pushed me to go up there one day. He's a Grammy award winning songwriter. But Id like -- I think there is a disconnect here that John Legend talks about. Waiting for Superman.2010. It matters who your local representative is. GUGGENHEIM: Those kids can't learn. /BleedBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] Thanks to all of our guests. /Type /Page But do you think Michelle Rhee was trying to improve the performance of the teachers in her district, was she trying to make the schools better? One of them is Nakia. /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] endobj Thank you so much. How do we spread that from Harlem across America? The filmmakers deliberately kept the camera on certain students and their families, like Nakia and Bianca, in order to show how those who did not get into charter schools felt extremely disappointed and emotional because they had hoped to be accepted into a schoolthat would not fail them. Waiting For Superman may refer to: Waiting for "Superman", a 2010 documentary. /TrimBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] LEGEND: My last thing I would say, we have to realize that these kids are our kids. You say no one wants lousy teachers but there are a lot of really lousy teachers who are protected by this current system. /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text ] You have to live in the district. That's when we come back as we dive into the issues presented in "Waiting For Superman." Everyone in this room is feeling something powerful tonight. /GS0 18 0 R /Contents 30 0 R I like to follow the evidence. You think it was about -- let's be respectful. There are really, really bad charter schools across America. endobj /Rotate 0 We can run the school the way we want, which is to give our teachers the power to teach. So look, all of us on this stage, whether it's Geoffrey or Michelle or Davis, myself, the two of you, we all care passionately about the children. SCARBOROUGH: All right, Davis, Davis, you said at the beginning you didn't want to get involved in this project. You said OK we're not going to penalize bad teachers. LEGEND: This is a civil rights issue. >> /GS0 18 0 R But can we really get Geoffrey Canadas in every public high school across America? In fact, those are the very areas where he has success. BRZEZINSKI: Why didn't you want her to go to a regular public school in your neighborhood? /ArtBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] You do not come off as the hero of this movie. He wrote "Shine," the theme song for "Waiting For Superman." They have to go see this movie and have smaller conversations like this. Thank you so much for doing this and also sharing your story in the movie. Michelle, you have been on the wrong side of the debate over here. There was, as Geoff said, a sense that failure was tolerable, as opposed to a focus on success. Randi we'll let you get a response in here and also, Mika, what we're going to do is figure out where everybody agrees. The reason is because we're allowed to give our teachers freedom and then hold them accountable for results. NAKIA: The public schools in my neighborhood don't add up to what I want from her. BRZEZINSKI: On Tuesday morning at 8:00 a.m. from this very stage, General Colin Powell and his wife on "MORNING JOE." endobj Yet instead of examining this critical issue objectively, the movie Waiting for "Superman" cites false statistics in their effort to scapegoat teachers, unfairly blaming them for all the failures of our urban schools. SCARBOROUGH: No doubt about it. We're seeing all this great success in Harlem, there were forces that were trying to make sure that that couldn't be replicated on a larger scale. Take a moment. I want to talk about New York for one second. That's why -- SCARBOROUGH: To John's point, though -- WEINGARTEN: So we never -- SCARBOROUGH: Unions fought like hell against these successful charter schools being able to expand in New York State. We could say to everyone in education we have to give a couple of more hours. An examination of the current state of education in America today. When you hear, well, I get paid whether or not you learn or not, it sticks with you. >> >> >> Last Friday night I watched Davis Guggenheims new documentary, Teach, which was broadcast in on CBS.Guggenheim, you may recall, is the filmmaker who brought us Waiting For Superman, the shameless propaganda-fest that signaled the full-on nuclear stage of the corporate-driven war on public education (also known as the What's the big takeaway from "Waiting For Superman"? WebShop for waiting for superman documentary transcript filetype:lua at Best Buy. What's amazing about these tears, I knew about the film for months and just knowing the system, I knew how it was going to end. SCARBOROUGH: As far as -- well -- LEGEND: Why is there a cap? What if I made a movie that gets people to care about other peoples children and fight for other people's children as much I fight for mine. [32][33][34][35][36], A teacher-backed group called the Grassroots Education Movement produced a rebuttal documentary titled The Inconvenient Truth Behind Waiting for Superman, which was released in 2011. Film. << ANTHONY: Its bittersweet to me. /Contents 33 0 R Acquiring that good education is the daunting challenge they face. SCARBOROUGH: Its about jobs. Why? "[22] Anderson also opined that the animation clips were overused. It was so heartbreaking to see her upset and all of the other children around her not being called and not being picked. These people are the ones making the decisions. When you have kids from Harlem going there with first grade reading proficiency and science proficiency and they leave three years later with 100 percent proficiency, it just -- at some point it becomes a moral issue. And that is a concept that is so necessary. Why did you pick this topic? /MediaBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] /MediaBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] And while our guests enter the stage, let's show you a little clip of the movie, because "Waiting For Superman" is about our system, but what really gets to you in this movie is the individual stories of each child. The issue here in terms of education -- SCARBOROUGH: Wait. How do you get past that? Through the stories of five children who wanted to attend a charter school, the film shows how one child was accepted and another child was accepted from the wait list while three children were not accepted at all. /Resources << People couldn't believe you could do it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANTHONY: I want to go to college, get an education. SCARBOROUGH: If you're going to lock kids in Harlem out of that process and let a few see the light and see the -- that seems to me to be immoral. ANTHONY: I stayed back one grade. >> NAKIA: The schools in my area don't measure up as far as the reading is concerned, the math is concerned. /T1_0 20 0 R In response to this problem, many reformers, including Geoffrey Canada, have tried to look for solutions. BRZEZINSKI: These are compelling arguments that we all can agree on but, Randi, let me just put it to you this way. I'd like to follow up by asking you, that on "MEET THE PRESS" this morning, you said the union has taken steps to make teachers better, taken concrete steps. If I don't, Ill just be with my friends. But I think we have to get a layer deeper than just the platitudes that remain on the stage. /Contents [ 9 0 R 10 0 R 11 0 R 12 0 R 13 0 R 14 0 R 15 0 R 16 0 R ] We're here at the site of our education nation summit launching today at NBC News and MSNBC. /T1_1 20 0 R >> LEGEND: Who your state senator is. 6 0 obj 1 0 obj It just came out this week. I knew what the final scene would look like and I still broke down three times. >> And we need to have good evaluation systems. /Parent 1 0 R /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text ] Theres a lot of schools that I want to take you to Davis, great public schools where we are breaking the sound barrier, too. They'll talk about this issue. American schools face frequent budget cuts, but its not all about the money. Eighth graders at Kipp L.A. Prep get triple the classroom time in math and science. /Length 866 A teacher wants to stay. BRZEZINSKI: How do we get to what you're saying, though? After half a year of teaching, I talked to her yesterday, she had brought her kids a year -- more than a year and a half ahead. I mean, not all teachers are created equal. /Rotate 0 /Properties << WEINGARTEN: Theres nothing wrong with what Geoffrey just said. /Producer (Python PDF Library \055 http\072\057\057pybrary\056net\057pyPdf\057) Throughout the documentary, different aspects of the American public education system are examined. WEINGARTEN: I think look, again, we had a moment in time where we actually got to an agreement. RHEE: First, I think I would be remiss if I did not point out to everybody that there's been a lot of talk about public schools, public schools. BRZEZINSKI: Its very hard to watch this movie. I love teachers. In fact you come off quite badly. /Length 868 RHEE: I'm just wondering, if the AFT was putting a million dollars into mayoral campaigns all across the country just based on who the teachers liked, I would buy that argument. /MediaBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] And it's just -- it changes your perspective. As young as Bianca is, she too displays this look of defeat as her name is not called (Guggenheim 1:32:56). BRZEZINSKI: You also knew that a little girl like Daisy can be a vet or a doctor or anything she wants to be if she's given the tools to do it. 4,789 Views. SCARBOROUGH: This is a civil rights issue? BRZEZINSKI: Thank you. By the time they finish eighth grade, they will have doubled their math and reading scores. There are winners and losers. /T1_1 20 0 R That was in the second grade, because my father had passed. SCARBOROUGH: Geoffrey Canada, some remarkable things are happening in Harlem. CANADA: Well you know what? It was not simply about education. Because what is wrong with what he's saying? >> I just heard a story, I met a teacher the other day. Rhee said that only a small number of teachers and principals cheated. /ExtGState << GUGGENHEIM: When the media asked me to make the film, I originally said no. SCARBOROUGH: What we hear, Randi, morning after morning after morning from progressives, from conservatives, from Republicans, from Democrats, from independents, seems to be the same thing. "[30], Diane Ravitch, Research Professor of Education at New York University and a nonresident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, similarly criticizes the film's lack of accuracy. In this incredible movie, "Waiting For Superman," Davis Guggenheim introduces to us some of the heroic parents who struggle to provide a better future for their children. We're going to lose our nation. BRZEZINSKI: Exactly. SCARBOROUGH: You were on the board for Harlem Village Academy. And the audience in this room just finished watching an extraordinary powerful film called "Waiting For Superman" which opened just a few days ago. The film recognizes how the American public plays an important role in helping to accomplish the reform goal of making American public schools great. I support public schools. /GS1 17 0 R By the time she leaves Stevenson, only 13 percent of her classmates will be proficient in math. I am the first one to say, that charter schools are not the answer. /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] During its opening weekend in New York City and Los Angeles, the film grossed $141,000 in four theaters, averaging $35,250 per theater. First, I loved that town hall today. Since charter schools do not operate with the same restrictions as public institutions, they are depicted as having a more experimental approach to educating students. Like around here, I mean, I want my kids to have better than what I had. Davis Guggenheims Documentary, Waiting for Superman explores the corrupt American School system. Ravitch said that "cheating, teaching to bad tests, institutionalized fraud, dumbing down of tests, and a narrowed curriculum" were the true outcomes of Rhee's tenure in D.C. So the question is, what's New York City doing right? /ExtGState << GUGGENHEIM: Ive seen the movie hundreds of times. SCARBOROUGH: Thanks a lot, Davis, way to go, man. When they hear this back and forth, there's the sense of like, you know what, put my head in the sand, take care of my own kids because this debate has been going on for generations. GUGGENHEIM: Whats really -- people -- when I hear this conversation, I want to bring it back to parents. "[13] Variety characterized the film's production quality as "deserving every superlative" and felt that "the film is never less than buoyant, thanks largely to the dedicated and effective teachers on whom Guggenheim focuses. WEINGARTEN: Michelle and I may disagree on the particulars of this, but there are about 50 or 60 districts that are using the proposal that we made and ultimately we think if we do that, if we fix teacher evaluations so it's about teacher development and evaluation, we can fix this problem. Yes, first or second grade skills. Take a look. You cannot say we want more resources to go to kids when in fact in this city, Joel Klein is spilling $100 million a year to pay for teachers you saw it in the movie, who aren't actually teaching. Most will go to John Phillip Souza, which the "Washington Post" called an academic sink hole. 7 0 obj At the end of the film, there is writing that states: The problem is complex but the steps are simple. What were the results of the kids who came in and were about to graduate this June, late May, what is the change that has happened with these children? And at the same time, have some due process so that we guard against our arbitrariness. They want to know what good teaching looks like and they want to emulate it. I mean, from my perspective, it really seemed like what was scary to people was this idea of beginning to differentiate folks. WebSummaries. /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text /ImageC ] I cry for him sometimes. The film criticizes the American public education system by following several students as they strive to be accepted into competitive charter schools such as KIPP LA Schools, Harlem Success Academy and Summit Preparatory Charter High School. RANDI WEINGARTEN, PRES., AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS: Sure. [39], There is also a companion book titled Waiting For "Superman": How We Can Save America's Failing Public Schools.[40]. That means politically get involved. By what name was Waiting for Superman (2010) officially released in India in English? Thats just one of the great things that we see. /TrimBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] That is the problem. I get why that's good for the adults. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. >> endobj We love hard-working teachers. /Count 5 As he follows a handful of promising kids through a system that inhibits, rather than encourages, academic growth, Guggenheim undertakes an exhaustive review of public education, surveying "drop-out factories" and "academic sinkholes," methodically dissecting the system and its seemingly intractable problems. Because I seen what you do, Ive seen what Deborah Kinney has done, Ive seen what a lot of people have done out there and it seems to me, the model is find an extraordinary person, put them in a school, let them run that school. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you think that most of the kids in D.C. are getting a crappy education right now? David Guggenheims Waiting for Superman looks at how the American public school system is failing its students and displays how reformers have attempted to Documentary. If Anthony goes to Souza, odds are he'll enter high school three to five grade levels behind. [4][5][6] On Rotten Tomatoes the film has a "Certified Fresh" approval rating of 90% based on reviews from 118 critics. /Pages 1 0 R Seventy-eight percent of them, this is not our survey, this was their survey, said a union was absolutely essential to them to try and stop school politics or principal abuses. I have a good feeling about this. /Rotate 0 Waiting for "Superman" is a 2010 American documentary film written and directed by Davis Guggenheim and produced by Lesley Chilcott. WEINGARTEN: A collaboration issue was where we disagreed at times. And it's more about a jobs program than it is about the kids. Were going to talk to in a second and thats where Jeff Zucker told me I needed to go. And we have to have everyone, even parents, recommitted, you know, even school officials, district heads, superintendents, unions, all of us have to move off a position of self-interest like I do with my own kids, sending them to private school, like the unions do, I think, preserving the status quo. Because you would think that the parents of those children that Michelle was in there shaking up the system to save those children, if those parents would have rallied, but we have gotten so used to failure, we tolerate failure in places like D.C. and central Harlem and Detroit, we just tolerate that failure and we've got to say to this nation, no more.