It can't be done if the government is a complex, dishonest mess. I might have to go outside and see if Big Brother is installing hidden cameras. Sure, businessmen could use the info -- but because someone wants it, doesn't mean that I have to give it. The Nazis were just doing their jobs, also, "anon75478" but that doesn't make it right. IE: IRS, DOT, Labor and Industry. If every household in the nation received this survey at once, there might be more of any outcry and uproar for our government to cut out the nonsense or face a revolution! Objections to the ACS include the personal nature of some of its questions and, despite government assurances to the contrary, associated confidentiality issues. I have had them endlessly harass me on the phone after I filled the form out two times and talked to someone they sent to my door. I told the lady that I regarded the ACS as some kind of personal info fishing scam by criminals masquerading as the federal government and again stated that I had more than Constitutionally complied with the short form questions. The last time I looked, American's had the right to privacy. TheAmerican Community Survey(ACS) helps local officials, community leaders, and businesses understand the changes taking place in their communities. I told the second person who called me that I had already refused to cooperate with the first person who called. But I hit the brakes big time when they ask for your birthdate, among other garbage of race, sex, etc. I am getting bothered by the census people now and what really annoys me to death is that I look all over the place and see all these people with basement apartments making tons of money off the books. Follow your happiness and I promise the universe will be there for you: subtle, slow, obvious or quick it will respond to your emotions. But, on a positive note, we were all meant for happiness - it is our purpose. To those who say they can't publish anything like that, I have seen it. After spending almost an hour answering questions the first time the census take came to my house, they start calling me on Sunday afternoon -- enough is enough! I plan on turning over any fines or issues to these attorneys I know and I have used them before. I see no reason to comply. Now let me get my cell phone fully charged and ready for the doorbell to ring. my wife and I pay our taxes and feel if that's not enough for our government, then "Too bad Charlie". They are not better people, more deserving, more intelligent, more experienced they didn't know "how" things were going to work out they just knew they would. Is that something you would want to get into the wrong hands? [18] Furthermore, the questionnaire also demands that recipients provide information about their family and other people in their home, such as their educational levels, how many years of school were completed,[19] what languages they speak[20] and when they last worked at a job.[21]. I'll see "YOU" on the tube."You Tube". I felt like cursing this lady out! A: Those who do not answer the ACS risk repeated overturesby mail, by phone and in personfrom Census Bureau employees seeking to compel a response. In the case of direct taxes (a direct tax is a tax on property based on ownership), this provision requires Congress to apportion the tax among the individual States based on population. They would have to take you to court, and they haven't done that EVER. City Manager; Commissioner of the Revenue Are we going to let this happen? 1. Who is there to police the police? When they ask for race, that's what gets me. The ACS program provides estimates annually for all states and for all medium and large cities . In 2000 I threw the forms in the trash only to receive three visits at my door. This second survey is going right in the burner. Unreal! The threat is there because it works. These people can often stop this kind of activity. I have therefore included both Article 1 section 2 of the US Constitution, and the US Supreme courts decisions in upholding the right to privacy. I contacted an attorney's office on my questions and objections to see if they were valid and what the legal interpretation was of the constitution and the US code. They say they are from the U.S. Dept of Commerce. After reading through the 28 pages of questions the second time (not 28 questions but 28 *pages* of them), I decided to do my research. It's a breath of fresh air. do we have a hot water heater? They have all the information they need from the IRS. I am a nurse, taxpaying honest citizen and I will not be forced into answering these obscene questions! I will give the information to those who really need it to improve my neighborhood, city, county, etc. This crap has been going on for almost a month now! He came to my door anyway. A sympathizer to the Census said it was to help the government to function. What the hell are you mad about? This government is OUT OF CONTROL! If Americans wish to be free of judicial tyranny, they must at least develop basic knowledge of the judicial role in our republican government. I still am in my boxers since I just woke up and surely was not prepared for a slew of questions from this guy who was getting paid my tax money to invade my privacy). I told that I had already fulfilled my Constitutional duties as a citizen with my mailed-in short form, and then told her the ACS and her harassment of me in my home is unconstitutional. Person 48. Yet, it seems lately that these rights are being taken from the American people. I returned the question booklet as instructed. They can go to hell. At the moment, I am pretty furious with the current political band of thieves and third world dictators "wannabes" in power. While. And I did so right away. You can find no instance of someone being 'required' to respond, or being fined for not doing so. We do not have to fear picking up the phone or answering our door. Other countries pay equally and get that ever elusive socialist universal health care. Thetwo statutes at most give the Defendants the authority to conduct a post-census statistical adjustment to ensure the accuracy of the decennial Census, the suit argues. Why don't they survey me to find out my opinion on illegal immigrants, unemployment benefits to people who have barely held a job down in their life, giving child care benefits to unwed mothers who just keep popping out babies to numerous baby-daddies, who will never pay into the system so that I can collect Social Security when I want to finally retire after 50 years of non-stop work,or putting this country into mega-debt while giving money to impoverished countries that will never help us or appreciate us. [11] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Computer.pdf. I'm planning on returning it blank, with a letter stating the reason for not complying is the OMB# expiration. There are two of us living here. The next day I saw this guy talking to my neighbor and figured he was submitting him to the same harassment I had received. Sorry, but you are really just not important enough for them to worry about, certainly not as much as you are obviously worrying about them. Bunch of grumpy anti social loners. why are they taking polls for illegals? The Legal Accountability Project is a nonprofit aimed at ensuring that as many law . I informed my employer that I will not answer the ACS, that I filled out the Census, and that is all they get. Don't give in. The next day I called back and talked to a different agent or whatever they are. Read our Newswire Disclaimer. I am not giving my personal information out to anyone authorized by this government. I'm sick of this. Learn about two important Census Bureau surveys covering housing data, the American Community Survey (ACS) and the American Housing Survey (AHS). I am going to avoid all traps and when it is time to have them finally come over I am going to do an international webcast and sing answers and slowly say, ohhhhh I don't know.let me think and sit there for 15 minutes for each question.everyone will know where I don't work, how much money I don't make and that I don't have plumbing and that I fart a lot That's the game the Nazi's started with in the 30's as did Stalin, with the knocks on the door and the spying on each other. American Community Survey: https://www.census.gov/acs Chicago Regional Office 1 (630) 288-9200 or 1-800-865-6384 Chicago.Regional.Office@census.gov Heartland Institute: www.heartland.org The. Has anyone really admittedly shown that proof that they got fined? I shall be contacting my Senator and Congressman to voice my alarm and concern on another gross infringement of my Civil Liberties. The census worker also tried to "bait" me into giving false answers by saying "just answer the question anyway you like even if it's not true." [5] Unlike the decennial census which is sent out every 10 years, the ACS is an ongoing survey that is sent out on a continuous basis by the Census Bureau.[6]. Our town boasts 90,000 citizens, but we know there are at least an additional 10,000 illegals here (yes, here in Mexifornia). They only get idle threats. That's the truth. If anything, they could have made it easier for us all so we wouldn't have to be in debt for years just to get an education. First in a 2021 survey, support for hard authoritarianism is low, as only 9% of U.S. faculty were willing to support various dismissal campaigns and only 7-18%, depending on the issue, supported ousting a dissenting academic. You don't want your personal information in some library, online or in an archives someday do you? So I did not send it back. If the stories in this thread are true, those census workers are scum. I told him that was correct. This is ridiculous. Don't engage them in conversation or reason with them. She left, but will I be hearing from her again? SEC-502-RS-Dispositions Self-Assessment Survey T3 (1) Techniques DE Separation ET Analyse EN Biochimi 1; C799 Task 2 - Task 2 paper; . If there are any lawyers out there, we would like you thoughts -- non-attribution of course. [13] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/HomeHeatingFuel.pdf. Why don't you post the number in your family, their names, ethnic profile, give us your address and then, we will consider giving merit to your post. In July, I started to receive visits. In what may be a coincidence, they often seem to call shortly after we arrive home and there is a vehicle marked "census" in the neighborhood. I've since received a second one, and had one call this week(which I did not answer). They are not! But it did. It is confined to determining the number of Representatives [in the House] and imposing direct Taxes among the several States. It is SBO-1 (Survey for Business Owner and Self Employed) and states that it is mandatory per Title 13 USC. Please meet, call write your congressperson to recommend that they sign on to this legislation, and get rid of this ridiculous intrusion of government into your private and personal affairs. Helping this corrupt government "function" is the same thing as helping this corrupt government go kill more people, invade our privacy, tax our income, levy fines, issue permissions slips and tattoo our butts. EXCLUDE State operated juvenile residential facilities. My sister and I are fuming over these forms. Washington and California residents have filed a proposed class action in which they object to being asked to participate in the American Community Survey, which enquires about certain demographic details more specific than those central to the decennial Census. We didn't receive phone calls first, we had two visits at 7 p.m. from this lady with her little laptop. Survey/Program: American Community Survey. A census employee went to my neighbor's house, asking for my age, birth date, etc. You will not be fined. [22] http://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-question/. The calls/personal visits stopped. In an age when the government has significant technological resources at its disposal to not only carry out warrantless surveillance on American citizens but also to harvest and mine that data for its own dubious purposes, whether it be crime-mapping or profiling based on race or religion, the potential for abuse is grave. When he refused, the employee turned up twice unannounced at my apartment, demanding entry, and warning me of the fines I would face if I didn't cooperate.[35] Only after he filed a complaint with the Census Bureau did the agency realize he had actually completed the survey, thus ending its attempts to enter his home. I had the misfortune of getting an ACS survey a few years ago. And if there isn't a law protecting these rights, then we need someone to make it happen! Chinese officials knew nothing about the virus before the pandemic emerged. What time do the male members of your household go to work? But remember some of these folks have children to feed, too. I get hourly calls during the week. So, do I really need to fill this out, or can I use it to line my bird cage? It is widely known that in a five-year span the Bureau lost at least 672 laptops. Overall, the lawsuit says that [n]othing in these statutes gives Defendants the authority to compel Plaintiffs to speak when Plaintiffs invoke their First Amendment right to refrain from speaking by refusing to answer the American Community Survey.. I am looking into who passed legislation to approve this questionnaire. They can send me the 2010 census with their 10 questions that I am required to answer and I will. Any thoughts? I am glad to know there are plenty out there who are refusing to let our rights be trampled on!! OMB No. I don't owe the government anything for going to college. Be sure to document any interactions you have with Bureau representatives for your own files. Fine. I feel that a class action lawsuit should be started. I don't bother to answer my phone unless I know who it is. So, I tore off the page with my address on it and shredded it, and then I tossed the rest of the survey into the garbage. Then I asked the census taker her birth date, and I again got no answer. If they are "anonymous" why do they need my name, telephone number and race? . This scared him and on top of that, he did not know most of the answers to the questions. We need to take a stand and not put up with all the socialist crap the government wants us to do. Good-bye". Are you willing to roll the dice that this information will remain protected? A: The law requiring answers to the ACS also provides that a person who fails to answer shall be fined not more than $100.[32] The actual fine for a refusal to complete the ACS could be much greater because a failure to respond to certain ACS questions could be considered a separate offense subject to the $100 fine. DP03 SELECTED ECONOMIC CHARACTERISTICS. I said I did not need any help. Call your senators and congressman now and lets get these commie creeps out of our lives and off our backs. Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 190. These vermin can pound sand. But I guess they probably figured that out, so decided to send it to only 2.6 percent of the population at a time. The whole purpose of the census getting shortened was to entice people to fill it out, not this 20-page crap. Turns out, the worker knew where my husband works and called him there shortly after. A: If you receive notice that you have been targeted to respond to the ACS and you desire to assert your right of privacy, you can voice those objections and your intent not to respond to the ACS by writing a letter to the Census Bureau. Anyway, i thought i would turn it into something funny and started a blog. A .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States. Just throw the census form in the trash. Well I received my census, and it had questions that i refused to answer, which under the requirements should not have been on it. Just hang tough and they will eventually leave you alone. Go Tea Party! My high school son came home and read the questions and his first response was "this is communist." Oh, the reason he came back? From reading here, it looks like disclosing phone numbers is just an additional way of eventually breaking you down. It's the amendments that congress is busy adding to the original Constitution while you guys are busy working, fishing, etc., instead of watching congressional actions on C Span or some such that are killing us and our rights. The census taker left a note me a note today. Under Title 13 of the U.S. Code, you can be fined up to $100 for refusing to complete a census form and $500 for answering questions falsely. What I find interesting is that when I visit a home of an immigrant they are almost excited to give me whatever information I ask for. ) or https:// means youve safely connected to the .gov website. First survey last month. When are they going to get the hint and stop? 2) Explaining that you will answer one personal question for every personal question they answer on camera. Mailed it in. I looked the form up online and balked at the intrusiveness of the question. Individuals who receive the ACS must complete it or be subject to monetary penalties. Now they harass us all of the time. However, the Website for the U.S. Census Bureau. This is a very big, complicated country we live in. The Bureau lists 35 different categories of questions on its website and offers an explanation on how the information is to be used. And if they threaten you, video record all of this exchange. The new research by the Trevor Project, which surveyed nearly 34,000 LGBTQ youth ages 13 to 24 across the United States in fall 2021, also found that Black and nonbinary young people reported . He claimed he'd be back. don't let them take our rights away even more than they already have. I answered only the necessary information on the first census, then was mailed the ever intrusive ACS. OK, we all agree that our rights have been violated. We have received 3 demands from the Census Bureau. Hard to believe they did not receive it or they lost it. It doesn't do any good to argue with the census taker. The first phone call was late December and was not answered. I'm a 59 year old retired female and as a rule, I never 'buck' the system -- until now. Logged onto survey; did not complete any items 2.1121 65 Never logged on (implicit refusal) 2.11 887 Survey completed after close of the field period 2.27 189 Completed interview but was removed for data quality 1 Screened out . I just moved to a suburb outside of Detroit after years of living there, and its strange but I also got 'grilled' the last time it came around. Well its going to get colder before I give them the info. That's when I lost my patience and said "Look pal, you're here to count people right. Also, it can't hurt to tell your representatives. Remember, it is Congress that is the creator of federal law, and the enumerator of penalties for violations of the law, not the U.S. Census Bureau. Ask yourself this question. [3] U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3. I walked over to my neighbors later that evening and they told me that she did not come by to see them, but she was very persistent about getting the birth dates, ages, place of employment, phone numbers. My husband sent him away as we were eating. Today I received a notice in the mail from the Census Bureau Director, Robert M. Groves, advising me that next week I'll receive a 2010 Census form in the mail and would I fill it out and mail it in promptly. How much do I make per year? How about the number of cars that are normally in your driveway if everyone is home? I told her actually it's not. I suggest that people find a petition out there against this census survey. I am one who is living this nightmare: the letters, the phone calls, the personal visits, day in and day out, month after month. I am being harassed and threatened. Are we having a problem differentiating between the Census and the ACS? We are given dominion (care) over so much and neglect it, destroy it, and enslave it. The consumers argue in the complaint that although the defendants claim to have statutory authority to compel citizens to answer the survey, the authorization to collect information does not equate to the power to compel the production of information, especially when such information is not required for the ten-year Census. You want me to trust the census with information that is very private? The following Q&A is provided as a resource to those who want to better understand their rights in respect to the ACS. To complete the survey on the internet, visit https://respond.census.gov/acs. Box/Route Number Area code. Many Supreme Court cases revolve around the privacy that a legal US citizen has and honestly, how the Census Bureau thinks that these would even be accurate answers is a joke! State that you have not made up your mind yet and will get back with them (think "slow roll"). The surveyor didn't respond to that one when we had a "terse" discussion with them today. papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated. The oath means something to us and I for one am going to continue to tell them to stick it where the Sun Does Not Shine! DATA SUPPLIED BY. P.S. The funny part is the local grocery store has this job post up. give me liberty, or give you death as the old saying goes! Typically, the Census Bureau will telephone those who do not respond to the survey and may visit their homes to coerce the targets to respond. They do NOT enforce noncompliance, because they know this survey is UNAmerican and UNConstitutional and would NOT stand up in a court of law against The People. Are they too dense to realize that word just means "to count?". Don't touch them and if they do touch you, even slightly, fall down and don't get up until an ambulance arrives. I ignored her as I was outside with my kids. [24] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Race.pdf. I live in a high-rise condo building (where I rent), so let them come get me. I will not answer the questions on the ACS. My husband said he is going to start asking them the personal questions and leave it at that. Secure .gov websites use HTTPS Would you believe they just called again? I didn't believe him until he showed me the book. Copyright 2023 The Rutherford Institute. Happy evading! If we don't stand up and protect our rights we will lose them b/c the gvmt is all too happy to take as many away as possible for their own benefit at our expense. So he then left. My 15 year old son was home at the time of the census worker stopping by. Subscribe to GovDelivery email updates to stay up-to-date on the latest news and events about the American Community Survey. Too late I read the comments about this article and I got a phone call from the ACS. Not about us - about adjoining property! Browse our topics and subtopics to find information and data. The 22-page lawsuit against U.S. Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo and Bureau of the Census Director Robert Santos says that unlike the normal ten-year Census, the yearly American Community Survey asks detailed and personal questions regarding a persons sexual orientation, gender identity, fertility history, marital status and divorce history. [23] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Age.pdf. The Rutherford Institute I pay my taxes honestly, obey the laws of the land, don't speed, don't spit on the sidewalk and I will always open the door for a lady. Back in 2003 or so we also received a very long census questionnaire, with information I did not want to publish. I refused entry into my home. American Community Survey Welcome! Q: How does the Census Bureau typically ensure that people complete the survey? I firmly told her I had no intention of filling out the survey as I felt it was no one's business.