Machismo culture is very real and respect is considered to hold a higher level of importance in Latin America. In the picture of her in the Cave? The last half either had a wrong password, or simply no password at all was entered. Where is YNW Melly? I think whoever was behind the (likely) murders wanted it to seem like they went missing due to being lost on the pianista trail. Plus, corruption in Panamas government is rampant. And the black mark on her face. I think that this is definitely a murder, because of the rucksack. It isnt a cave, somebody has shown in a youtube video that it us just a very deep path on the wrong side of the mountain with a sharp turn. You would write something out on notepad or at least be texting everyone in your address book hoping one got through saying Help. If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist. Several of the relatives and friends of those visitors to the Quintana Roo who went missing formed a group named "Truth, Memory, and Justice" in an attempt to . Teams investigatedfor 10 days; their hunt scaled down on April 14, 2014, though continued on for 10more weeks. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. Were the photos altered in any way or is this a presumption? Hi Mohaiminul, you mention some good questions. Looks like some of sort of indigenous artifact/trail marker. It took us quite some time to get there, the authors explain to The Daily Beast. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. Ive travelled through Central and South America quite a bit and these experiences cant be found elsewhere. This case has captivated me. To me it looks like the chopped off end of a thick tree branch. This story and all the bizarre features surrounding it as strange as they are, are actually very much similar to the thousands that have been put together by former cop and forest ranger David Pauladis series of books Missing 411. Meanwhile, on April 2, 2014, the pairmissed their appointment with their hired tour guide. Im sitting here, with tears in my eyes and rolling down my cheeks.The transition from two weeks of lively holiday to stepping into the life of a real Panamanian family is just too much for me I want MOM and dad to hold me tight and tell me that everything will be alright I now feel like a small child of 2 yelling for her mother who is 2 meters away. Think about it. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. This is a great question. They got lost and they died of starvation and a hard ration, except for Chriss. I could be wrong, but until I see some compelling evidence to the contrary, Im sticking with Juans theory. I think Juan is actively trying to protect this human trafficking agency. I speculate about potential reasons. no, Jaguars fear humans and do not hunt them as tigers do in India. Fingerprints were not investigated. Kriss in the photo is just watching her step. They couldnt have been that far away from the return trail to Boquette. But there are a few holesin this particular theory. However, upon closer inspection, shes really ducking her head as to say look at the things over my head. I think this photo in particular is odd. Political corruption runs rampant, depending on the community, which has a cascading effect on law enforcement and local crime. If you can rule out getting lost or falling off the trail in that circle, all my money is on foul Once they examined the phones, investigators unraveled a confusing and grim timeline. Given that most people crop off the top of this image, people would have missed the findings that I mention below. You see the pattern to the left and right of her arm. And her shirt is pushed up. Instead, they think What words can I say to make my local population feel better? After all, locals elect these same authorities. I want to come!! That is the big picture of this case. The problem with the links you are providing is not that the links themselves are necessarily unsafe (they could be, but we wont test them)the problem is that ALL of your links require users to download some form of content. This girl was tortured before they killed her. Why? I no longer believe there was any mirror; What we see is instead is the lid of a soft food container (you can see the food stuck around the edges). If you find more info about this, please feel free to share it. Certainly, each country around the world offers valuable experiences in their own way. Sixty percent of these deaths were documented on the border between Mexico and the United . As you mention, she is blocking the sun with her hand and keeping her head down. And the police are not helping at all it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation. The search efforts moved into the forests where the young women traversed, using on-foot search teams and dog units. or Everything suggests they had no clue what they were doing when they took the taxi to the start of the trail. Being in a foreign country, in the tropical rainforests, especially for young curious minds, is a very unique experience. I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE PIT PICTURE FOR YEARS, YOU CLEARLY SEE A GATELIKE STRUCTURE OVER THE PIT. At dawn the rain stops and she sets out. Someone called her so she turning to look at them. Reading this reminded me of another photo the girls took of a branch with what appears to be red plastic attached to it. They are 99.999999% preventable. If the dog went with them, its likely that the girls would have taken a photo of the dog, even if the dog was in a photo accidentally. Also, it wouldnt make sense if Lisanne didnt know Kris password. Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. They added a caution sign after their disappearance for this exact reason. There is so much to see and Juan is amazing. They knew to be on guard and be careful. Thanks for all you are doing Chris. But, Who took the photos on later dates? I was surprised to learn that. Lisanne or Kriss hair and head 4. the dried short (Kriss) 5. both fell but their belongings were intact, no cracks in the phone? Los expertos en conductas humanas (psiclogos, antroplogos, etc. The blue thing on the ground looks like a blue tarp and that looks like a corner sticking out. What Really Happened To Two Dutch Hikers Who Disappeared In Panama? Do we know who owned the dog named Blue (aka Azul). On the original, her face doesnt look like that at all. The commenters here are speculating wildly about this particular picture. Here is what I see: It looks a bit wierd, but that is just because everybody is assuming they see her upper arm when in reality is is her lower arm. They showed an incredibly brave independence which was repaid with murder. The red is the sunlight shining through the dead curled leaves. Its a sect of foreign Christians that set up in the area and murdered 6 people FROM one of the local tribes. They came to learn a language and embrace a culture. It seems to be made up of white paint, at least like a tribal looking face of white paint. If they had solved the case, the international community (and the families) would have been satisfied and let it fade into history. Ive been into crime shows lately and my husband says I should be an investigator because Im obsessed. She turns to talk Lisanna Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. I think it would be a mistake to assume Lisanne knew her friends password. But most people going on a hike with a dog would take some pictures of themselves with the dog, right? For what reason? I believe that the case was handled so poorly that it leads one to believe that it was intentionally handled as such. The same thing happened to the taxidriver who drove Kris and Lisanne to the forest. Perhaps the photos served astrail markersto help the young women find their way around or back to therescuers. I think its possible the red and black object is actually just a reddish-brown dead plant leaf jungle leaves can get rather large. Im baffled as to why this case hasnt been investigated more, if not for protecting an indigenous tribe. This! . Between taking the last foto (Nr 508) at 12:54 local time and the first SOS call at 16:39 local time something happened. The local jungle tribes people have been looking for the girls. I think your initial analysis of the photo is spot on. Its a subtle difference, but you can tell the girls smiles are forced in those two photos and are not like the natural happy smiles in the other summit photos. The removed comment provided nothing helpful in any respect, and was merely to get attention and reactions. The girls took photos of so many things, even many mundane thingsbut for some reason the dog wasnt present in any of the photos. The hanging object and other points of interest you highlighted reminded me of this. What confuses this is that after Kriss phone dies then on the 5th during the afternoon SOS attempt a wrong pin is input on Lisannes phone and indeed continues to be input until the end. After days and days, they finally got a bit of reception and some hope, and they didnt try again?? This would cover natural causes and the rucksack contents being in perfect condition. It is cooler at those altitudes but also inside the forest it will be more humid. Even at this point, I still think theres a lot that can be achieved from gathering information and further evaluating the existing evidence. Progress is slow because at least one of them has a cut tendon. There was one person that said that the dog left with them when they set out on their hike. Hi, there sounds plausible but there is something about this case when I start to find some closure that it was an accident OR indeed foul play, I get new evidence from the internet debunking the conclusion I arrived at. Its a bit strange that the dog is not in any picture. Trials are too costly. It looks as though she has a mouse under her right eye. Froons bones appeared as if they had decomposed naturally, but Kremerss bones were mysteriously stark white as if they had been bleached, raising questions about whether someone had been involved in their deaths. I cover a lot of these things in my other comprehensive article regarding Kris Kremers Bones: There are simply too many variables involved to oversimplify the case with the conclusion that they got lost. Most of the bones were never found. It looks straight and like it may go over the eye and above it. The biggest danger for travelers in Central America is crime. So, these were all indigenous locals influenced by another villager that had traveled abroad. Also I wish we new more details on the phones. That is an interesting photo taken of Kris Kremers under the slatted roof. Could be that they were trying to avoid somebody on the trail, went off the oath & got lost. Kremers and Froon set out into the forest along thePianista Trail around 11 amon April 1, 2014,with only a backpack between them. On closer inspection this and the cave photo appear heavily manipulated. Then I downloaded the photo and opened it up in my graphics editor. Yes, I can see that too Chyna Lee. This basically kills the idea of living in Panama on permanent tourist status. Apparently the dog had no comment. It would be like a marker for anyone to see. There is what appears to be a well trodden, narrow path to the left of her which passes behind her and enters a very dark area at the back right, which could be the cave. I previously read that online, although it was a while ago and I cant remember where I read that. Nice investigation. I wonder if the two red objects are flowers? They were not lost. For goodness sake, why do people make things up? Beyond that, the police are even suspect in altering evidence and not preserving it. A search eventually turned up a severed foot and scattered remains, but authorities had trouble determininghow the hikershad died. I would expect especially on the first day for total panic to occur and multiple attempts to be made until a decision was made to save battery strength. If it is not possible to join those two points together then that would at least shine light on the possibility that a third party was involved at some point leading to the appauling possibility that they genuinely were lost for some time (until the 5th?) Also last year, 22-year-old Florida man Craig Taylor was found strangled to death on a dirt road in Punta Sam, north of downtown Cancun. One showed Kremers with what looked like concern on her face,dated around the time of the emergency calls. That and the deleted photo make me for first time in my studies of this incident start to suspect foul play, but well never know. Bizarre! I do see the supports and I think thats manmade also. I created this graphic and highlighted the unusual items that seemed peculiar to me: In this photo of what looks like a cave or overgrown ravine, there are numerous possible items that suggest this place had been visited by other people. She does look slightly uneasy but I just think it was a photo she wasnt expecting. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. At that time, she had her phone. Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. This either meant Lisanne Froon was conscious while Kris was not, and tried to call emergency services, or that a third party tried to get into her phone but didnt succeed. But dogs in Latin America tend to roam around and go wherever they want theyre very free here. Hi Chris, great work by you on this. Heres more info: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/research-team-update-join-us/. Its at the very top of the post. If thats what Im seeing, I have no doubt that it was murder and that this photo and several others have been manipulated. To touch on the disappearance case of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, we can vividly see the incompetence that took place, even under the spotlight of international pressure. I feel that unless they do or unless further forensic work has shown something more then, no matter what the experts in survival say, it is still only speculation and not proof. Vittorio Caruso. Thanks for pointing this out. When the girls were vacationing in South Panama it shows a photo of them in the ocean, and behind them in the ocean is a fat white man seemingly staring at them. That is the key. They may not have even know what they were doing, taking pictures, if they werent familiar with technology, and tossed the phone again at some point for the girls to grab to attempt the emergency calls and taken it back at some point after. However, with the high resolution photo, you can more clearly see an organized structure over her head. Most travelers that have big experiences want to remember the small details of trips, because the trip represents an important memory in their life. I think shes frightened, Not only does it look like her hands are tied behind her back,but if you zoom in on just her,her expression does not look happy at all,and she is looking off to somewhere beside the camera,she isnt even looking at the camera,and there appears to be blood in her hair on both sides of her head and her hair is clearly a mess.maybe this photo was taken after their captured, possibly by whoever captured them. and happened to Kris that would explain why Lisannes phone was first one used to make an SOS call. No dog. They decided to take that short hike, but they failed to tell anyone where they were going and what time to expect them back. Have you managed to obtain a copy? Someone with darkish skin. The white and red object on the left looks slightly like a cows head and what I took to be Kriss tousled hair on the left of her head now looks like the thumb and fore finger of her left hand pointing to the inside of the hut. I was looking at the photographs again and something caught my eye. They obviously protect the predator(s). That does not make sense if they were genuine. For the first handful, a correct password was entered. I think Juantarctica made a compelling case on YouTube for this theory. Do you have any idea how many people of all ages go missing here every single day. I think murder is quite likely. Adventurers and travelers seek different experiences. What if she was trying to get fire with the mirror and the paper? It must have been flowing in the river the police said. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. Maybe they were forced by someone to go. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, were hiking near the town of. I really hope the girls rest in peace and that nobody goes through this ever. The dog wasnt in any photos, nor were the girls photographed after their disappearance. Why go to another country to hike when America and other safer countrys have plenty of hiking places ? Still creepy though. From my own gutt feeling I see only a very preventable accident. Froonand Kremerswere both in their early 20s; they traveled toPanama to work with children. Blue is an uncommon color in the rainforest for anything of that size. The rich live in gated communities. They earn money through drug trafficking, often theft and sometimes by extorting businesses. After cops searched the area where the backpack was found, they discovered Kris' clothes neatly folded along the edge of the river. Is it possible that there is a building or some sort of structure behind the vegetation? The first all the black area behind her was blackened and smudged. 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. They know that youre supposed to find a river, so they set out in search. For more background and insight, please feel free to read some of the disappearance stories Ive written about: https://imperfectplan.com/disappearances/. Could it be the same man in both photos. The world may never know what happened to the pair, but speculation still runs wild. However, according to the Daily Beast: We now know that more than two dozen other victims also were reported in the same region of Panama, including a young woman from the United States found murdered earlier this year. From 2017 . I dont see any confirmation from law enforcement either as to whether or not the white bones were tested for bleaching. Why did he leave them? Hi JW, yes I agree with you about many things. The sign actually looks like a door with light shining thru.thats crazy. In any case, this doesnt give any insight as to why there are no photos taken from that day beyond the first stream crossing. There is, of course, the possibility that they might have agreed to share passwords considering that a remote wilderness could present an emergency that might result in a combination of one of them losing her phone while the other was too incapacitated to work hers. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru Volcano in Boquete. However, her surroundings were my intended focus regarding this photo theres a lot of things in this photo that havent been discussed elsewhere and could provide clues as to what happened to them. The dog found his way home. Well be mapping the trails with a GPS device, searching for the location of the night photos and capturing aerial footage of the rivers in the region. The students' phone records also tragically revealed how they desperately tried to call the police. There is an illustration drawn on Kriss back in the hair photo. Kris has somewhat prominent cheeks and a full lower lip. And look at it from this point of view. I wanted to her a benefit of the doubt before I came across this article, yes she did mention red and black feathers on a piece of wood and turquoise pendant and a white mask. I also live in a third-world country about which it was said that investigations were shut down, or botched, to protect the tourist industry. I can assure you that is nonsense. Take care.
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